The Trouble with People, and Music Scenes

We like to talk a lot about what we need to do to make our music scene more vibrant, and well-known, but there's a massive elephant in the room that needs to be addressed before any of that happens. We need a shift in mentality. Our salvation won't be found at some new bar, or even at an old favorite. It's not gonna be found on stage as a cover band burns through yet another rendition of “Play That Funky Music (White Boy)”, and it damn sure won't be found in an “upscale nightclub”. Great, just what we need, another place where lawyers, and various other out-of-touch suburbanites can go to talk about college sports.

One of the main things we need in order to get a better music scene is for people to get off their asses, stop complaining, and go to a show. That's it, it really is that simple. “Oh, but I don't know any of the bands playing.” Shut up, and go discover something new! What are you waiting for, the radio to tell you it's good? “But it's like five dollars to get in the door.” There's four bands playing, and you spent ten dollars for coffee this morning; stop with your lame excuses, and get your whiny ass to a show! You want live music? It's out there, go find it, and for the love of all that is holy, unholy, and chaotic neutral: stop thinking that the damn radio or television is gonna help you find anything.

If I had a dollar for every time I saw someone complaining on a radio station's Facebook post, “why don't you play (insert non-commercial and/or local band here)” I'd be significantly less broke. Let me clear something up to anyone who has any doubts: radio plays what they are told to play by a giant corporation, and they are not allowed to deviate from that list unless it's during “garbage time” aka Sunday night. Remember that unsigned show on the local Rock radio station? Yeah, that was late on Sunday nights, when no one listened. Then they complained that no one listened so they pulled it off the air. It's all a big joke. A big, fake, joke.

You want live music, but don't like what you're seeing available? Look up your local noise laws, clear out a room, buy some old mattresses for sound-proofing, and book some bands! I'm tired of all this bitching about “there's nothing to do”. False, you're just not trying hard enough! Take your cynical opinions about what a local band is, regardless of genre, and go watch them perform with an open mind. Everything sounds better live anyway, don't you know that? I feel like you would if you've ever been to a show. I can't stand pop music, but even I've sat through a happy-dappy pop set to see a band I was REMOTELY curious about. Why? Because I like live music, and bitching about a show's lineup doesn't help anything.

Let me specifically address the people of Upstate South Carolina for a moment: If you think everything going on here musically is crap, then I can assure you that the only thing that's “crap” is your attitude. Take it from someone who actively searches for new, underground, unsigned music; we're sitting on a goldmine here. Whatever you're into, it's happening right here if you'd just look for it. I've been to Acoustic Folk shows, Pop-Punk shows, and even Black Metal shows, all within 15 minutes of my house. What do you want!? It's here, I assure you! Nah, you're probably too busy complaining on Facebook to actually search for something you might enjoy. You're “busy” right? Yeah dude, taking buzzfeed quizzes takes a lot of time.

I feel like I'm not doing my job well enough, if I was, no one would complain about this music scene. Well, that's not true, people will complain about anything. (I mean, look at me, I'm complaining about complaining.) We could cure all known diseases, and establish peace on Earth, but someone would still find something to bitch about; it's absolutely ridiculous. People at the Rock club hate Rap, people at the Rap club... oh wait, there really isn't one because most of the Rap promoters are shady, and want to charge artists hundreds of dollars to perform for 6 minutes. Wanna know why there's not many Rap shows? There's your reason, right there.

I feel like most people don't really want a great music scene, or a better life, they just want to bitch. A lot of promoters don't want to build anything remarkable for the greater good, they just want to get over on people whenever they can, and look out for themselves. They want bands to do their job for them, and they complain when an out-of-town act doesn't bring 30 people with them to the show. Then the venue doesn't wanna pay, the band gets pissed, and decides not to return. It's a vicious cycle of people being too hard-headed to make any real progress. Like I said, we need a change in mentality.

Ultimately, it takes people to get off the couch, put the phone down, and come to a show for scenes to thrive. Until every single one of you complainers are ready to do that, just keep your mouth shut, and stay at home. I'm sure there's a re-run of some stupid, god-awful reality show you can gaze upon, slack-jawed, and bewildered. Maybe there's a few obscure TV stars from the 80's dancing around. I bet there's probably someone singing karaoke, and another person who's a ventriloquist. Why bother getting out in the world, out of your comfort zone, and experiencing something new when you can waste away in front of a box of advertisements, right? No thanks, I'll pass.

A lot of you musicians need to step up your game as well, no one is innocent in this, especially not I. Sure, you should hone your craft, and work towards making the greatest music you can, but you should also step up your overall professionalism. Preparedness is paramount to a great show. Whether it seems this way or not, everyone at the bar, house, club, wherever, notice when the show doesn't start on time, or when performers are pissed off at each other. Drama of any sort will kill the atmosphere of a show faster than that one drunk guy that no one understands, and who won't stop trying to “dance” with (read: dry hump) every warm body in sight.

Of course, this rant doesn't apply to everyone. I know a lot of people who get out there, and support whenever possible; they're all credits to their respective communities. Honestly, a lot of you are at shows more than I am, but I think any one of us involved will agree that the DIY community is a bit secretive. Understandably so, we don't want the police to show up. You just never know if you're getting a cop with a low IQ, and a chip on his shoulder, or someone who legitimately wants to be helpful, and do good in the world. When faced with the option of advertising a show on a grand scale versus avoiding potentially deadly confrontations, we'll gladly stick to being underground. Sorry some of y'all miss out on the fun because of that. That's a problem we seemingly can't do very much about; we've got to look out for our own safety first, and foremost.

Our music scene problem isn't much different than our humanity problem. We don't talk to each other unless it's on social media, and we all feel like we're too busy to care about anything other than ourselves. We're lazy, arrogant, and inconsiderate of others. In a nutshell, we just don't have our shit together, and it's holding all of us back. Yes, all of us. A bad set detracts from the overall experience, and contributes to an overall bad show. Everyone remembers the bad parts of a show, and it makes it that much more difficult for everyone else on the bill to dig the bad show out of it's hole. We simply just need to get better in every regard. Such is life, you must improve whenever possible.

Music is a great unification tool, we could possibly fix a lot of our problems just by gathering at a few shows, and doing this crazy thing called “talking to each other”. I don't know how many more times I have to say it before it sticks, but I'll keep going anyway. What we have here isn't perfect, but it's ours, and it deserves to be nurtured. Sometimes that means stepping back, and addressing our problems, even if it makes us uncomfortable. We must work through the defensive, and/or emotionally-charged statements, and get to the real issues.

As improbable as it might seem, I know that greatness can be achieved by everyone. I've seen so many people make so much progress, and I've even recognized progress in myself. It's great to congratulate ourselves for all the hard work we've put in, but we still have so far to go. As we head into 2015 full of the notion that we're gonna make big changes in our lives, please take these thoughts with you. Recognize that this diatribe isn't just about music, and understand that we truly are all in this together, whether we like it or not. We can be better, we can even be the best, but we have to work hard, and support each other. We shouldn't feel so alone when everywhere we go is so crowded.

43 comments:

  1. Thaaaaank you. I'm in a rock band in Atlanta and I've witnessed the same nonsense. I can't tell you how many talented musicians I've encountered that will likely never make it because people would prefer to binge watch a TV show on Netflix that they'll likely forget about in 10 years, rather than experience the excitement of live music.

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    1. Mr Barker, where can an out of town band book in atlanta? Dirty reggae punx feat. Members of Green Jellö are looking for some place on our way thru and that market has been really hard to tap? Hearing alot of hip hop only stuff

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    2. Check out under the stairs or masquerade. If you're going for the a nice punk house show vibe check out the Cunt Cave - basement turned venue. I've played each place and they're great.

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  2. Whoever wrote this is a damn genius. Here in Cleveland it's the same way. That last sentence in particular really hit me as well. I just came to that realization over this weekend, so the timing of this blog is kinda ironic.

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    1. Thanks, I don't hear that often! haha

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  3. I've gotta tell you guys that we actually have it really damned good here in Cincinnati. We have a number of killer bars that have good stages, killer sound, and no cover. This has made our scene EXPLODE. Northside Tavern, MOTR Pub, Drinkery, etc... if youre putting on a good show you are going to have a crowd. These bars also make it a point to bring in out-of-town acts weekly. Check them out. And a little shamless self promotion: you'll dig my band, Lemon Sky. Releasing a new song and music video this Saturday. Expect a packed house at MOTR!

    Bars/venues and bands working together can change the paradigm. Give people something they won't forget!

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    1. The problem is that even those places book subpar acts that deter people. I've frequented Northside Tavern, Southgate House (both the original and the Revival House) and many other venues around Cincinnati and have seen my fair share of bands that left my ears bleeding. Seeing/hearing bad band after bad band makes it hard to get motivated to go out to new bands. I mostly go see bands I already know or have seen before because honestly it hasn't been worth the risk to go to new acts.

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    2. I'm moving to fucking Cincinnati

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    3. Ken, I feel you and you're not gonna strike gold everytime, but you should be able to find a pretty good show around town at least once a week. Even The Fillmore had some shows you wouldn't care for! Regardless, we have a good thing going here. Don't lose faith! You might find your favorite band of all time and all the shows you didnt dig would worth it.

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    4. First off, learn to write a Fucking Article. There are more I statements in this story than in a bag of Idaho Potatoes. People can not go to Shows anymore, due to the high ticket prices. Food, rent and other bills are more important. Supporting local acts such as, MAIDEN CHICAGO, BLACKENED & TANZEN would be a great start. Next, write a review about the band so more people will go and see more shows. That's how folks can help with the music. Paying $800 to see AC/DC is not helping. Get a clue, they don't like you!

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    5. First of all, this is an underground, DIY music blog; this isn't some website finding things on twitter, and re-posting them as "articles". There are no "articles" on this website. Second, nice band plugs... no, seriously, I applaud your lack of fucks to give. Third, there are plenty of reviews on this blog, you would have found them if you looked around a bit instead of blindly jumping into the comment section like an offended, drunk, weekend warrior musician with too much time to kill on the Internet. Lastly, the percentage of people who read this blog (there's that word, "blog" again) AND listen to AC/DC is so small that it's barely even an actual number. I can tell by your response that you just skimmed through it (like a lot of people tend to do) because I'm not talking about shows with high ticket prices, but rather the shows featuring... *wait for it* underground, DIY bands.

      In short, go fuck yourself, you bitter, old shitbag. People like you make me hate the fuckin Internet.

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  4. Give them something worth listening to and they will come.

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  5. Very lengthy article but I read it all and it makes sense. Well written. I've played in every region of Maine. It may not sound like a big deal but you have lots of small towns with a variety of people who have a different taste for different music. And there can be some serious long roads to travel home from each venue you play. You can head home, after the show, on a high or with your head hanging low. Roger Waters once said, whether you're playing in front of twenty people or twenty thousand... Feel every note you're playing and play them with passion. Only then can you be your own judge. You give every person who has shown up, an experience to remember. Then, as musicians, we can all head home, or to the next venue, on a high note. And for those who come to the shows to have a good time, just know one thing... A good performance from any band doesn't just "happen." It takes time, dedication, money, and patience to put these shows together. Now, get your couch-potato asses up, click off the television, and go check out some local talent. You might just leave on a "high note."

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  6. Jesse, you're full of $h!t and you know it! Blo me

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  7. Speaking as someone who has run productions at a venue, and has seen hundreds of local shows, most of the bands out there do, in fact, suck... and not just because I don't like the particular genre. In a strictly objective sense, most of these bands are not ready to be performing for money... and that's why they don't draw, and they don't make money. Let's stop acting like every special little snowflake who picks up a guitar should be able to play to packed houses and make buckets of money doing it... because the bar is incredibly high due to the inundation of shows (good or bad) happening on any given night, which I will talk about next.

    The reason people don't go to local shows isn't that they aren't aware of them happening, or that they're waiting for TV or radio to tell them what's "in"... the real issue is that there is an oversupply of shitty bands in every major city, and they're all busting their asses to get people out for sub par music. It's over saturation to the point that the general show-going public has lost faith in the local show. To most, calling a band "local" is almost a toxic label... because the negative implication is that they will be amateur at best and god-awful at worst. For every one legitimately talented local band that can't draw, there are 100 terrible bands playing that same night (who also can't draw) but are also diluting the value of a show. While you may be a special case, the general public doesn't want to pay for, or sit through, shitty entertainment especially when it comes to performance art. They don't want to risk their precious night out on bands they've never heard of, because chances are, a $5 cover for a "local" band, will be a lame show with bands rehearsing on a stage with their girlfriends and the other terrible bands watching them.

    The truth is simple. Venues, house shows etc have to earn back the public's trust by only booking good locals, and turning away all the bands who need a few more months or years to work on their music. If a show-goer knows that a particular venue only books legit acts, they can go in confident that whatever is playing will be good. Good bands, forging relationships with good venues = Good Scene. Stop acting like it's the crowd's fault for not supporting shitty art. There are plenty of local bands here in Chicago who can sell out a killer room and 99% of the time, they perform like a band who can sell out a killer room.

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    1. I agree. As someone who books a venue myself, one of the reasons I get so many quality acts on a regular basis, is b/c out of town acts/promoters see my schedule and see that I at least try to bring quality talent on a consistent basis.

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    2. This is so dead-on. Bands need to worry less about big audiences and put their nose to the grindstone more. Hone your craft, make a demo, and for the love of God act professional at the shows you do play. This means you have good equipment and your instruments are ready to go for each song. No one wants to watch you tune for 10 minutes. It means knowing your lyrics and not playing that unnamed song you just wrote last night and hardly practiced. Your set should be almost perfect, because you've rehearsed it so many times it's hard to get it wrong. Get your shit together and the crowds will come.

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  8. Jesse is right. The vast majority of local bands are talentless and derivative. If I want to hear "Free Bird" I will turn on the radio. I want to hear something new, I want to hear it done well.
    I am probably in the minority, but I think tribute and cover bands do well because it is familiar and they are playing well written music. I saw a band last night that covered nothing but rap/rock and hip-hop infused pop. They were talented, people dug it, and it was fun. Nobody wants to hear original music anymore. That's because much of it kinda sucks and offers nothing new.

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  9. Disagree wholeheartedly. Speaking not only as a musician but as a fan of many different genres you're missing a few glaringly obvious points...

    A) Local musicians need to do a LOT more to promote their shows besides facebook posts and other forms of social media. The MUSICIANS are the ones who need to get off their butts and get out to where the people are. Make people know you exist. FLYER, PHYSICALLY FLYER! Don't blame lack of drive from FANS for your own sense of entitlement.

    B) more importantly...Write good fucking music! If its boring, unoriginal, or just plain bad, why in the hell would you expect people to come out to pay money to listen to it!? Just because you create a product (and yes, while its an artform, its still a PRODUCT) DOES NOT mean you're entitled to anyones time or money regardless of whether said product is crap or not. The Russians tried that, its called communism, look it up. And while we're on the topic of performing live music...LEARN TO PERFORM LIVE!!! If I had a dollar for every time I witnessed a local bands set that sounded like utter garbage and/or was about as entertaining to watch as witnessing paint dry, I'D be a very rich man indeed.

    I'm all about supporting local music, but NOT just for the sake of doing so. Thats like expecting people to buy and drive vehicles that you and your friends make in your garage just because you did so "locally", regardless of the quality, and then BITCHING that its THEIR fault that your not successful or that no one supports you. Get, a, clue, sir.

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    1. I agree completely. I view it similar to going to a restaurant, if the food or service sucks why should I come back. If the band sucks or put on a crappy show why should I return.
      And you are spot on about the b as nd needing to get out and promote themselves better.

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    2. You're missing the point. He's addressing the people who actively complain about their scene and yet do nothing to change it or make it better. The ones who always complain that nothing is going on. There are those who act like having a great music community is important to them but never do anything but complain. That's what he's talking about.

      If you just don't like any music around you that's your prerogative. This article isn't about you or addressing you. You're perfectly entitled to enjoy whatever entertainment you see fit.

      Based on some of your other statements there are also a few things you don't seem to realize. Bands do a lot more than just promote on social media. It's mostly word of mouth because handing out flyers is illegal in some places. Flyering is a quick way to recieve a cease and decist. There definitely are some bands who don't promote very much but you usually don't hear about them staying together for long or playing more than a couple of shows.

      There are a ton of talented people out there and I'd say for every band I don't like there are just as many that I enjoy and most shows I attend are full of excited people who are really into the music. Mainstream music has about the same ratio of good to bad material in my opinion. A lot of it is garbage.

      The point of this article I think is that the scene here is just fine. It's really diverse and a lot of the bands put on a fantastic show. The shows are often well attended even when they take place in the middle of the week. It's not really big but it's active and it's growing. Most of the people complaining about it here have just never bothered to even look around. They just say things like "I hate this town. There are never any shows."

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  10. I've been in as well as out of the music scene for years, now I find my self trying to book shows, get the name out there, build a fan base, any help to get it out there, share shows, build a following is always helpful.
    www.facebook.com/tiesthatbind247

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    1. Thanks! Pretty cool band you've got there too, best of luck with that.

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  12. Electronic Dance Music. That's where the kids are going. It's easier to promote:
    1. Only one guy to pay.
    2. DJ can bring whole show anywhere on a thumb drive, or just download it on site...
    3. Zero rehearsal time, all of which can be spent on promoting shows
    4. Kids just don't know any better. They'll go anywhere there's a critical mass of people like themselves just looking for a good time. Doesn't really matter how good or bad the music is, as long as there's a big enough crowd...

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    1. Valid points indeed, but don't forget about all the drugs. haha

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  13. So... 10+ paragraphs to basically just say people need to go out and see shows... BRILLIANT!

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  14. With the internet making record sales checks not as big as performance checks there is a change in how people expect a show to be. It used to be you could sell a song and sit on cash doing that. The acts would make a record and tour to promote that album. Now it all turns up in simplified quality on the internet for anyone who wants a free copy. That puts the large acts of yesteryear in the smaller bars and clubs again. They aren't just promoting an album this time though. It's how they make a living. So the new bands have to really put out to compete for the same clubs and bars. People want a show and not just someone you have to yell over to order a drink. Yeah, the quality of bands has gone down from say twenty years ago. Urged by family and a small circle of friends puts unpolished acts out too soon. But promotion on the web makes filling seats easier. So the whole scene is polluted by old acts or new acts who are far outmatched by the seasoned vets. So, this is the perfect time for the next big act to sweep the public without promotional guidance. It means the next music hero will be the real deal and not pushed on the public as such.

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  15. fuck all that noise !!
    i want a volume control an any band in my vicinity period !
    stupid shit heads barking out junk from there dirty mouths , i can`t stand it any more.
    these song writer singers need some classical training and lots of talent.
    WHAT HAPPENED TO DOO WOP style harmony.

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  16. People in Columbus Ohio are just dicks and roll in their own little cliques. There use to be a ton of great bands in Cbus but seems alot have let their egos kill the scene. Don't look for any help from the local radio station 99.7 the shitz they are still playing 20 yr old songs that no one even wants to hear. End rant

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    1. Sounds a bit like Upstate SC a few years ago. A few people started doing DIY Punk shows & it's grown from there. It's not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was, and getting better. These things tend to go in cycles, it may pick back up where you're at if people work towards it. Best of luck with that. Our "new rock" radio station is stuck somewhere around 1997 too. haha

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  17. Any good hardcore death country bands playing?

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  18. My band is a member of the Columbus, OH/Central Ohio Scene. Watching our scene for the past 6 or 7 years now, there is one thing that I feel keeps it from getting better outside of the lack of support: DRAMA! You said it well in the article that drama kills shows. Everyone knows something is going down, and Jerry Springer could probably fill 3 seasons worth of television shows with the amount of drama that goes on at some shows.

    I understand that most bands are trying to "make it big". I'd be lying if I said my band isn't one of them. But there is one thing that we put first, and that's the music. I live, breathe, eat, sleep, and $#!* music. I want to share it with whoever wants to come and hear it. Come to just one of my band's shows. If you like it, cool. Hope You keep coming back. If you don't, then move on. But don't ignore shows when our band is on the bill after that. There may be another band or two at that show you may like.

    I'm not trying to say that my band is great. I happen to think we suck. Of course I've never really been very confident about my own music because I judge it based off everything else. I constantly criticize my own guitar playing, singing, lyric writing, and stage performance. Our bassist has been playing bass only as long as we have been together. But every practice, every show, every time I hear us play, we is getting better.

    Yes, going out to hear bands can suck when the bands suck. That doesn't mean they don't have the capacity or the ability to improve. Almost every band played on mainstream radio started off as a crappy basement/garage band. They jumped on every show someone would ask them to play just to get their name and sound out there. They practiced and rehearsed around work schedules, school schedules, married life, raising kids, and the daily grind to get better. That's our band, and 80% of the bands out there. The band is a hobby, an outlet. It's the escape from the everyday.

    Another thing hindering local scenes from thriving are "Pay-to-Play" venues. These are venues that give local bands the chance to play with national acts, but for a price. Example:

    Promoter: "Hey, (Kinda Big Name National Band) is playing here three months from now and we feel your band would be good as a supporting act. Are you interested.

    Band: "Hell Yeah!"

    Promoter: "Ok. When can you stop and pick up your tickets? We'll give you 100 to sell. You have to sell at least 35 of the at $20 each to play the show."

    Band: "F^#% !!!!!"

    Yes, that does happen for those of you who aren't aware. Sell $700 worth of tickets to play a show that can give you great exposure and lead to better things. BUT, if you don't sell the tickets, then you have to come up with the money yourself or forfeit the show. I'm sorry but if the national act is the headliner, they should sell tickets themselves by being booked there. Don't make the supporting acts do the grunt work and pretty much break themselves to play a show.

    Personally, I like small venues. 50 to 100 people max. Honestly the biggest crowd I've ever played in front of is about 60..... and I f'n loved it.

    I agree that people need to stop complaining about nothing to do and just go out and support the bands. Put all the BS and drama aside and go listen. Don't be inside for the first song of a band's set and then spend the rest on the smoking patio. You may miss that one song that makes you like that band.

    But for the love of all that is great, leave your baggage at the door. Just have fun, respect the other show goers, and enjoy the music.

    ....And if you don't have anything good to say about it and want to talk about how much the bands sucked, I'd like to see you try to do it. Chances are you probably wouldn't try.

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  19. While I agree with some of the points of this article, the flaw of logic in the primary hypothesis seems to me to be the assumption that the people who complain about local shows don't go to local shows. If they don't go to local shows anyway, why would they complain about them in the first place, and in which case, why would anyone consider their opinion relevant?

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    1. Great point. I think a lot of it comes down to things just never being good enough for some people.

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  20. Nonnie Mouse in CLE HouseSeptember 23, 2015 at 4:47 PM

    Frankly sick of being inundated and drowned in posts for local bands and local music, I don't bother my friends all the time incessantly posting about something I'm promoting, and the majority of the shows aren't very good when you DO go. I've seen lots of shows that have lots of support but not a lot of talent. I've been to shows that have been totally worthwhile. People are still getting up and out. But is it really worth it when there is no real way to filter through EVERY SINGLE NEW BAND that wants you to listen to them. That's your time, your ears, your energy to expend that these musicians feel they are entitled to, just because they learned to play and instrument and are eager to have people listen. Anyone can record an album. Any group of talentless individuals can practice and make a band. It happens ALL THE TIME and more often than not, it isn't worth my time. A true gem is rare to find, and I have heard amazing songs hidden in a release EP, but timing is everything to people.

    But I will tell you that I haven't been to a local show in a good long while, I've gone to events to see performers in very niche genres who always come highly recommended but gone are the days I will go to support a friend or another local musician. I've heard it more than once or twice, and it hasn't changed much. If I want the atmosphere I will go, but if I want quality guaranteed music, I'd rather be at home and play it without the cover fee or being covered in someone's sweat.

    Do I support my musician friends? Yes, many I have. Do I go to their shows anymore? No. I have the albums and can listen at home. I have a lot of local band albums I will never listen to again as well. But if you've heard it once or twice or five or six times already, and nothing is getting better or dramatically changing, then why am I paying my friends to watch them entertain me and to listen to their songs over and over again?

    Musicians feel so entitled to have people listen and it's quantity over quality. No other group of people seem so pushy about making everyone consume what they can create. Do you have any chef friends who promote themselves the same way? Imagine your accountant friends pushing you to hire them to do your taxes. Quality speaks for itself.

    Put out quality, and the music will speak for itself. Play good and people will come. Good reviews draw people in, especially when they aren't written by YOU or someone you are BFFs with.

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    1. It's people like you that cause the downfall of local scenes.
      You may think that a band isn't worth your time, but when people have this attitude, bands are unable to attract a following outside of their town because nobody's talking about their show, BECAUSE NOBODY SHOWED UP.
      I've seen this a lot and when there are people at bars and venues supporting a band, more people come. Crowds attract crowds. Think about it, if you live in a college town, 90% of those kids are going to go wherever there's a lot of people. It's just a natural attraction. Nobody wants to go and sit in a bar alone.

      Anyway, without that accidental attraction, even good or great bands can't spread their names.

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  21. I'M getting too Damm old to go to a show that starts at 9PM or later. It's a real lack of professionalism when the band is not ready, plugged in and the amps not working. Do overs are really not acceptable. The band needs or rehearse with all the musicians.

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  22. I'm from a small town in Southeast Kansas. We REALLY have this problem. I see it more and more every day- we have a fairly large group of people who try, compared to what it was a few years back, but the musicians still outweigh the fans. It's just sad; I see people talking about how boring their town is all the time, yet they're the very same people that won't leave their house for an hour to go to a free show. I mean these people don't even take the time to listen to all of the free music we all have posted online. I actually recall a time recently when I paid to have a facebook advert. 700 people reached- two engagements. It's appalling. I guess my point is that nobody wants to do anything or even give the effort to see what's going on. My town has concerts 2-3 nights a week at nearly every bar or venue in town, but we only ever see a handful of people at said venues.

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  23. I live in Omaha NE. Good music scene, lots of great bands and awful bands. If a local band wants to draw a good crowd however, talent or how good your band, not an issue in Omaha. For a local band to draw in Omaha it is all about how many butt-buddies, girlfriends, and who has the best show after parties. Because Omaha is full of wannabe hipster fucking posers.

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    1. Omaha for a mid sized city also has the most segregated music scene ever. Everybody runs around in the same circles and will not step out of their little circles.

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